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Planetary ratio, ring to carrier (sun held)

Speed reduction from the ring gear to the carrier when the sun gear is held still.

Ref
DRV-15
Rev
v1
Field
Driveline and transmission
Result
ωr/ωc

With the sun gear held still and the ring gear as the input, the carrier is the output: ωr/ωc = 1 + Zs/Zr. It follows from setting ωs = 0 in the carrier-speed relation. It is a small reduction, only slightly above 1, because the ring is large and the sun small. Input and output turn in the same direction. It is the second ratio available from the same planetary set when a different member is held.

Speed reduction from the ring gear to the carrier when the sun gear is held still. It is a small reduction, only slightly above one, because the ring is large.

Calculator

Solve for
30150
1280
  • Carrier speed when the ring turns at 100 rad/s75 rad/s
  • Sun-to-carrier ratio with the ring held, for comparison4

What drives the result

Each variable is moved across its typical range while the others stay at the values above. The longest bar is the key driver.

Speed ratio, ring over carrier () current value 1.333
ZsSun teethKey driver
1.172.11
ZrRing teeth
1.161.8
  • With 72 ring teeth and 24 sun teeth, holding the sun gives a ring-to-carrier ratio of 1.333, only 33.3 % above direct drive. Holding the ring instead gives 4 from the same set.
  • This is why a single planetary set offers a few different ratios: the same gears give a large reduction, a small one, a direct drive and a reverse, depending on which member is held.
Chart data as tables

Ranked variables

VariableTypical rangeLowest resultHighest resultSwing ()Local stepChange in result
Zs Sun teeth12 to 80 1.1672.1110.9444+1 +1.04 %
Zr Ring teeth30 to 150 1.161.80.64+1 −0.342 %

Sweep of Sun teeth

Sun teethSpeed ratio, ring over carrier
121.167
20.51.285
291.403
37.51.521
461.639
54.51.757
631.875
71.51.993
802.111

Sweep one variable

Speed ratio, ring over carrier ()Hover, touch, or use the arrow keys on the chart
1.21.41.61.82 20304050607080 Sun teeth now 1.333

Variables and how each one contributes

ωr/ωc

Speed ratio, ring over carrier

Result ·

What the equation gives you. Everything else feeds it.

Zr

Ring teeth

· typical 30 to 150

The number of teeth on the ring (annulus) gear, a whole number from 30 to 150. Lowers the ratio towards 1: a larger ring makes it closer to a direct drive. Raising it by 6 (to 78) moves the result by −1.92 %, from 1.333 to 1.308.

Zs

Sun teeth

· typical 12 to 80

The number of teeth on the sun gear, a whole number from 12 to 80. Raises the ratio: a larger sun makes more reduction. Raising it by 6 (to 30) moves the result by +6.25 %, from 1.333 to 1.417.

Worked example with the values above

  1. Tooth ratio: Zs/Zr = 24/72 = 0.3333.
  2. Add 1.
  3. ωr/ωc = 1.333.

Assumptions and limits

  • A simple planetary set with the sun held fixed.
  • The ring is the input and the carrier the output.

Common mistakes

  • Using the same formula as the sun-to-carrier ratio. The roles of ring and sun are swapped.
  • Expecting a reduction as large as in the other arrangement.

Statistics and uncertainty

The ratio is exact for given tooth counts. Because the ratio is close to 1, small changes in tooth numbers have little effect, so this arrangement tolerates machining variation well.

Where it is used

  • Understanding the second ratio available from the same planetary set.
  • Checking the intermediate gears of an automatic transmission.

Maths you need

  • Gear ratio: input speed over output speed
  • Planetary gear: sun, planets, carrier and ring

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